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Josh Scobee, Jacksonville Jaguars, NFL Kicker, Interview

We had a chance to catch with a NFL Kicker at the Drew Brees Celebrity Golf Tournament in San Diego, CA. We caught him as he was approaching his last nine holes in the first round.

In this interview Josh Scobee from the Jacksonville Jaguars talks about his life as a NFL Kicker. He also gives some valuable information on what it takes to make it in the NFL, what his favorite trick shot is, off-season conditioning and much more. A must listen even for all levels of kickers and punters!

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2011 Draft: Who Got Drafted? Kickers, Punters & Specialists

Well, as expected not too many specialists were drafted over the weekend in the 2011 NFL Draft.  The one thing they have in common is the both have in common is they handled both duties in college. Lets take a look at the two specialists drafted and how smart of a move each selection was.

1) Alex Henery, Nebraska Kicker, Drafted by the Eagles…Round 4 Pick #120 –6’2 175 Punter and PlaceKicker

Awards

  • First-Team All-American Place-Kicker (AP, Rivals.com, CBSSports.com, SI.com in 2010)
  • Rudy Award Finalist (1 of 3)
  • Lou Groza Award Semifinalist (2009, 2010)
  • First-Team All-Big 12 Place-Kicker (AP, Dallas Morning News, Kansas City Star, San Antonio Express-News, Rivals.com in 2010; Dallas Morning News, Rivals.com in 2009)
  • First-Team All-Big 12 Punter (Kansas City Star, ESPN.com in 2009)
  • Second-Team All-Big 12 Punter (Coaches in 2010)
  • Second-Team All-Big 12 Place-Kicker (Coaches, Phil Steele, Fort Worth     Star-Telegram in 2010; AP, Coaches, Fort Worth Star-Telegram in 2009;
  • AP, Kansas City Star, Dallas Morning News, San Antonio Express-News in 2008)
  • Honorable-Mention All-Big 12 Punter (AP in 2010; Coaches in 2009)
  • Honorable-Mention All-Big 12 Place-Kicker (Coaches in 2008)
  • Lou Groza Award Star of the Week (2010 at Oklahoma State, 2009 vs. Va. Tech, at KU)
  • Ray Guy Award Watch List (2009, 2010)
  • Nebraska Special Teams MVP (2008, 2009, 2010)
  • Nebraska Team Captain (2009, 2010)
  • Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Week (three times in career)
  • Allstate AFCA Good Works Team Nominee
  • Second-Team Academic All-Big 12 (2010)
  • School Record Career Scoring (397 points)
  • School Record for Most Consecutive Made Field Goals (18, broken vs. Missouri, 2010)
  • School Record for Most Field Goals in a Season (24 in 2009)
  • School Record for Most Field Goals in a Career (68)
  • School/Memorial Stadium Record Holder for Longest Field Goal (57 yards vs. CU, 2008)
  • Guy Chamberlin Trophy
  • Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll (2010)
  • Big 12 Commissioner’s Fall Academic Honor Roll (2009, 2010)
  • Brook Berringer Citizenship Team (2010)

Year      GP         FGM     FGA       LG         XPM      XPA

2007    12           8             8             41            45             45

2008     14           24           28           57           56          57

2009     14           24           25             55         38             38

2010     14           18           19           53            54          54

Totals   54           74          80            110      193        194

Henery was the consensus, best kicker in the draft coming out.  Henery completed quite possibly the greatest college career for a placekicker including 14-14 in postseason kicks.  If any have seen his kickoffs you will understand why he was drafted(consistently 8+ yards deep) as high as he was.  As successfully predicted here by TKS, David Akers was unfortunately one of the few players up for replacement based on postseason performance and age.  If Akers is replaced it will be the end to one of the most consistent kickers in the NFL and a sad way to see him go.  Fortunately,  the Eagles selected a the best Kicker ahead of everyone other team and didnt sacrifice too much in terms of using a “high” draft pick.  For a team that had incredible depth and a great offense, they added yet another weapon.  With Sav Rocca still going strong and Akers previous playoff performance it seems Henery will be solely focusing on the placekicking duties.  Either way, based on his raw kicking strength, accurate, and clutch abilities, it looks like the placekicker for the next five to ten years.

2) Matt Bosher, University of Miami, Drafted by the Atlanta Falcons – Round 6, Pick #27  6’0 205

Awards 

  • 2010 ALL-ACC SECOND TEAM
  • 2010 SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE YEAR (TEAM AWARD)
  • 2010 LOWE’S SENIOR CLASS AWARD CANDIDATE
  • 2009 ALL-ACC FIRST TEAM (KICKER)
  • 2009 ALL-ACC SECOND TEAM (PUNTER)
  • 2008 LOU GROZA AWARD SEMIFINALIST
  • 2008 ALL-ACC SECOND TEAM
  • 2008 JACK HARDING AWARD RECIPIENT (TEAM MVP)

Career Statistics 

Year      GP          FGM      FGA       LG          XPM      XPA

2006     RS           –              –              –              -              -

2007    12           0             0             0              0              0

2008     13           18           20          50           40          40

2009     12           14           16           52            50          50

2010     13           13           17            51         37          40

Totals   50          45           53           153        127        130

PUNTING
Year        GS               No.             Yards       Avg.          Long         20              TB               Blk
2007      12/12        58               2329          40.2           75               9                  1                  2
2008      13/13        66               2659          40.3           76               19               3                  2
2009      12/12        51               2169          42.5           59               23               7                  0
2010       13/13        59               2597         44.0           62               19               6                  0
Totals     50/50       234            9754         41.7           76               70              17               4

Bosher is the stranger of the two selections because it is up in the air on what position Bosher will play.  While he does have the ability to play both positions well, he was drafted as a punter.  Based on statistics and scouts he was more highly regarded as a Kicker than a Punter.  Conventional wisdom would think based on natural ability and age of potential player replacing, that Bosher would replace Jason Elam who is 41 vs Michael Koenen (punter) who is 28.  While a draft grade cant be given until his performance is seen, it much like the rest of the Atlanta Falcons draft this would be considered a “reach”

Overall, not the greatest draft class, but a great addition to the NFL and I am eager to see what they how they do in the coming season.

The Good, The Bad and the Ugly….Draft edition

The last two days has been great a draft, but much like all special teams attention there hasn’t been a kicker or punter drafted yet.  While I hate to see this, the reason is simple;

History has not favored teams that have drafted kickers with high picks.  Only a select few have panned out well the rest have been….. less than spectacular.

The Good:  As much as it pains me to say this…..

Sebastian Janikowski-Raiders 2000 Draft – FSU 6’2 250lbs

Since entering the league in 2000 Janikowski has been the cream of the crop when it comes to kickers.  Not only with having maybe the most interesting name for a kicker but also being remarkably consistent and having possibly the strongest leg in the league.

Some of his notable accomplishments have been

  • Career 262 for 333 percentage of 78.7
  • Average 26 field goals a season
  • Most points in raiders history (1000)
  • Longest Field Goal in Raiders History

Was the selection of Janikowski a bit of a stretch, no doubt, but has he met every expectation? Yes

The Bad- Partial bias on these two

Mike Nugent- 2005 NFL draft- 47th pick-OSU-5’10 190- New York Jets

Played 4 years with the Jets before losing his starting job and is now on his fourth team with the Bengals and on injured reserve.  Had a sparkling college career, and performed decently in the NFL but hasn’t performed up to the standards of a second round draft pick, and now has bounced to his 4th team in 6 years.  Also, considering the pro Bowl players that came after him( Vincent Jackson Nick Collins Frank Gore and Justin Tuck) , the selection was a poor choice of drafting a kicker.

Nate Kaeding-  2004 NFL Draft pick 65 Iowa 6ft 187

Might be a bit of a stretch to put him in the “bad” category but after looking at a larger picture it is evident.  While an extremely consistent regular season kicker “Nasty Nate” has had his shortcomings.

Kaeding has a regular season conversion percentage of 173-200 for a 86.5% making him quite possibly the greatest regular season kicker currently(previously held by Vanderjagt). However, his performance in the postseason has earned the title of worst postseason kicker in NFL history.  In 8 playoff games he is 8 of 15 including a miss in 5 games of his total 8 games.  Most notably an 0-3 in the 2009 AFC divisional game against the Jets which the Chargers lost by 3.  In the five Chargers losses Kaeding is has missed a field goal in 4 of them.

While I am a fan of Nate Kaeding his postseason numbers offset his  regular season achievements and bring his overall worth down to a being an average kicker.  Putting him in the draft pecking order, 3rd round is way too high to draft an average placekicker.

The Ugly

When I  mean Ugly this is the worst of the worst.

Russel Erxleben 1979 Draft 11th overal Pick Texas New Orlean Saints.

Up there with Ryan Leaf as the worst draft picks of all time, Erxleben had a stellar college career as a 3time all american punter and has the longest field goal in NCAA history.

Notable follies in Erxleben’s career include

  • an interception to lose a game in overtime in 1979 causing them a chance at their first winning season
  • a career 50% field goal percentage
  • a career 40.6 punt average
  • playing in the league for only 6 years

After having quite possibly one of the greatest college careers ever Erxleben has quite possibly the most dissapointing Pro career for a kicker.  One other consideration for “The Ugly”

John Lee 1986 draft 32nd overall UCLA- Lee never played in an NFL game after he couldn’t make the transition from kicking block to off the ground.

Note: Adam Vinatiei undrafted in 1996 D1-AA South Dakota State

Overall, as much as it would please me to see more kickers drafted, the track record isn’t in favor of team drafting kickers, with reasonably high picks.   Also it should be noted some of the great kickers weren’t ever drafted.  Simply, sometimes kicker is too great of a risk to draft without the greatest reward even if he might be built like a lineman and have a name like ”Seabass”

NFL Draft 2011: Specialists – Kicker & Punters

There is a chance that we may not see any kicker or punter get drafted this year in the NFL Draft but its not stopping me from writing about the possibilities.

Overall, not a strong class for kickers or punters, but with the kickoff rule change it could change how teams draft place-kickers.

Last year in 2010, there were three punters drafted one of which was on the TKS Radio Show this past week, Zoltan Mesko from Michigan. The others were, Brent Bowden (Bucaneers) and Matt Dodge (Giants). There have been six punters drafted in the last two years, and I think maybe one will get drafted this year.

Over the last three years, there have been four kickers drafted, including none last year. In 2009, David Buehler and the last player drafted Ryan Succop. The last few years have not been stellar for draft potential kicker –besides the punters.

First, here are some kickers I think that could get drafted. After doing research via -videos, articles, blogs and numerous arenas here are my thoughts of who and when they could get drafted.

Kicker:

1)   Alex Henery – Nebraska

2)   Kai Forbarth – UCLA

3)   Dan Bailey – Oaklahoma State

Punters:

1)   Chas Henry — Florida

2)   Ryan Donahue –Iowa

As for the kickers, Aex Henery he is my number one choice to get drafted.  Although he did not win the Lou Groza (not sure why he didn’t) he is the best of the bunch. If you watch the following videos you can hear his own head coach tell you about his character and to me that says a ton. When you get to the NFL every kicker has power and Henery has that of course but can you handle the pressure of kicking with 50,000 plus fans every week? He has shown that easily. His technique looks great, occasionally with these great athletes, you don’t see a much of a follow thru or he changes his rhythm, with Alex he is consistent and fluid.

Video of Alex Henery kicking:

Video of Coach and Teammate talking about him:  

Not to far behind is Kai Fobath from UCLA. Another stellar college kicking career here, countless game winners and remarkable stats. The knock with Kai is his kickoffs, he had a 55-yard kickoff in the Senior Bowl and missed a 44 yard attempt which will not help his draft status, and he has to prove he can kick in cold weather. But again with the new kickoff rule a few teams may try to take a chance on him in the later rounds. Our guess is that he will sign right after the draft as a free agent because of his kickoffs. I know that sounds crazy but with the career he has had to just sign as a free agent would be nuts. I would make a Facebook fan page called “Please Draft Kai.” I think his technique is not as fluid as Henery from Nebraksa and if he has a strong leg of field goals he has to work on his mechanics on kickoffs.

Here is video of him warming up before a big kick:

As for Punters: Chas Henry from Florida might be the one pick.  Great size and strength who can also kick and hold for field goals.  Did not get much film on him but is known as a three step punter, which many coaches will not like in the NFL.  He has all the attributes for a NFL punter tall and versatile and won the Ray Guy Award in 2010.

Here is some not so great footage of him kicking:

The other punter we think that may have an outside chance is Ryan Donahue from Iowa. A finalist for the Ray Guy Award this past season with a 44.6 yard average.  Although most analysts think he has great mechanics, there is still some room for improvement. Overall, very reliable and another great character athlete.  Possible late round or free agent.

Here is clip of Ryan punting —

Clip from the NFL Combine — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2IIHoG7_jM

Zoltan Mesko Interview – New England Patriots Punter

In this interview on the TKS Radio Show, Zoltan Mesko, New England Patriots Punter, talks about his roots, his time in Michigan and what his daily routine is now in the NFL. A incredible interview!

Kicker & Punter Workouts / Excercises Swiss Ball / Training Tips

March 4th, 2011

March has rolled in and TKS has rolled out some new videos on TKS TV. San Diego Kicking Coach, John Matich, loads these videos up with key exercises for improving your core for kickers and punters. All you need a swiss ball and yoga mat and some motivation to get better. A must for any level kickers including the NFL Kicker! Great functional fitness tips!

The second video is about using the TRX for kickers and punters.

2010 NFL Draft: Who got drafted? Kicker/Punters (Specialists)

April 24th, 2010

Here is the list of specialists that got drafted in the 2010 NFL Draft:

  • Brent Bowden, Virgina Tech….punter… drafted by the Tampa Bay Bucs …6th Round
  • Matt Dodge, punter…East Carolina, drafted in 7th round by the Giants
  • Zoltan Molesko, drafted in 5th round. Congrats Fillip!! First specialist drafted!

Listen to The Kicking System Radio Coverage of the draft! — http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kickingsystem/2010/04/23/nfl-draft-2010-kickers-punters-with-guest-kicking-coach-filip-flipovic

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TKS Radio Show / NFL Draft 2010 Specialsts (Kickers & Punters)

April 24th, 2010

The Kicking System’s radio show from Friday April 23rd in SAN DIEGO,  is now On Demand. Listen to it anytime!

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kickingsystem/2010/04/23/nfl-draft-2010-kickers-punters-with-guest-kicking-coach-filip-flipovic

In this show, TKS Owner interview Fillip Filipovic, a former 6 year NFL Veteran, kicking coach, about the NFL Draft and also what it takes to make it in the NFL. A great show, If you are looking to play in the NFL, this show is for you!

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2010 NFL Combine: Kickers & Punters: The Winning Mind

As we mentioned in a previous blog post, the NFL combine is upon us.  This week numerous kickers and punters will be evaluated in Indianapolis. They will undergo numerous testing protocols and be under an enormous amount of pressure. Geoff Miller, a sports psychologist based in San Diego, from the Winning Mind (thewinningmind.com), came by the TKS office this week to talk about the testing regimes of the combine and the state of the NFL Kicking game, Nate Kaeding and how he can help kickers. Geoff and I worked together during my tenure in arena football with the San Diego Shockwave back in 2007. I had such a great year that year, NIFL Kicker of the Year, that I owe it all to his work.   I asked him a few questions I get asked everyday here in San Diego as a kicking coach.

Q: This year was an “off” year for kickers & punters in the NFL.  Why do you think that is?

Geoff Miller:It’s hard for me to speculate as to why so many kickers and punters performed worse this year than in other years, but in general, I think the increased scrutiny on every game and every kick is a contributor.  Some of that scrutiny comes from media, fans, and even teammates and coaches and some of it’s self-imposed.  I work with athletes in a number of sports and the advances in technology, video analysis, measurement, and strength and conditioning have made it so that every last detail can be studied and improved. Kicking a football is not a skill that can be executed perfectly 100% of the time, but that’s the expectation and it’s an unrealistic one.  I see too many athletes making mistakes because they get overly focused on being perfect in their mechanics rather than just going out on the field and competing.  I’m not saying that the advanced techniques aren’t important, but I do think they contribute to kickers and punters (and golfers and pitchers, etc.) overcomplicating the game.”

Q: The testing methods they use for kicking at the combine are over 15 years old.  What would suggest as some new testing measures for kickers? David Buehler, Dallas Cowboys kicker, set a record for a kicker in the bench press last year, are those tests necessary?

Geoff Miller:I’m not in a position to speak on the testing methods for the combine, but my advice for measuring the potential of kickers in any setting would be to find out as much as possible about how they handle pressure.  That should be done by simulating game conditions as much as possible and through having kickers compete against each other as well.”

Q: How would you test the “mental” side of the game?

Geoff Miller:We have an assessment that we use with professional and Olympic athletes to identify the critical mental game factors that predict performance under pressure.  This assessment is called TAIS, which stands for The Attentional and Interpersonal Style, and we are able to directly measure how people concentrate, where they get distracted, and general personality characteristics that tell us how and when people will experience pressure.  When people are comfortable and confident, they are able to be focused and this allows them to execute their skills.  When people feel pressure, it affects the way they concentrate and makes execution more difficult. So we are often asked by professional sports teams to evaluate potential draft picks using TAIS and we outline for players and teams the mental game strengths of each player and the potential challenges players will face when they encounter pressure or have to deal with failure.”

Q: Do you recommend any certain type of tests for kickers?

Geoff Miller: “I would certainly recommend that kickers prepare mentally and learn as much about themselves as possible in advance of the combine.  Most of my use with TAIS is not done on the scouting side, but for player development.  We use TAIS to design specific programs for athletes to help them improve their performance under pressure.  And I have worked with football players to help them prepare for the pressure of the combine experience itself.  The combine has become so important to draft status that some players place too much pressure on themselves to “do well” during that weekend and that added burden impacts their speed, strength, and agility in drills, hurts their test-taking abilities which impacts their Wonderlic scores, and makes them more nervous during their interviews.”

Q:  What are your thoughts on San Diego Charger kicker Nate Kaeding? Why did he miss three field goals in the playoffs against the Jets?

Geoff Miller:Living in San Diego, I’ve been asked about Nate Kaeding a lot in the last month.  As I mentioned in my first answer, it isn’t appropriate for me to speculate on why Nate missed those kicks.  But this example of a great kicker who has missed in multiple playoff attempts demonstrates the importance of the mental game in sport.  Obviously, this is someone with elite level physical talent and something has kept him from displaying that talent when the season is on the line. And it brings to mind an example I use called “the downward spiral.”  An athlete finds himself in a pressure situation and makes a mistake.  He has trouble letting go of the mistake and instead of focusing on his NEXT opportunity to succeed; he stays focused on the LAST play that didn’t go well. This makes it more difficult to focus and another mistake is made, which increases the pressure, and so on and so on.”

Q: Do you recommend kickers working with someone such as yourself?  How often? How can it help?

Geoff Miller: “Not only do I think kickers should be working with sports psychology professionals, the most important message I would want to convey is that this is not something that should only be done when an athlete has a problem.  The best way to get the most out of yourself as an athlete is to learn the complexities that make you who you are so you can be prepared for pressure, failure, competition, and success, too.  When I work with athletes it is typically to help them make sure that they maximize the tremendous potential that they possess, not to help them “get out of a slump”.  I’ve worked with some athletes for a month and some for five years, but for kickers out there who want to get started, I think a realistic expectation would be to plan for 3-6 months.  We call our services at Winning Mind “performance coaching” and we typically meet with our athletes every other week for an hour at a time.  There are many ways a performance-coaching program can help, but my simple explanation is that performance coaching helps you to:

  1. 1. Know who you are
  2. 2. Know what you want
  3. 3. Know what to do when you don’t get what you want
  4. 4. Know what to do in the meantime while you’re figuring those things out”

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Jonathan Johnson, Free Agent Punter, One on One Kicking Lesson (SAN DIEGO)

February 4th, 2010

On Saturday Jonathan Johnson a former punter from ASU, drove to San Diego for some private kicking lessons with kicking coach John Matich. This was the 4th time Jonathan has been down to San Diego for kicking lessons.

Jonathan who has had numerous pro tryouts came down to get some fine tuning on his punting mechanics.  Last time we working on getting thru the ball and his drop table.  After the first few kick, it was clear Jonathan had been doing his homework.  He went on to hit some 5.0 + hang time punts and was looking smother.

Free Agent Kicker/Punter Jonathan Johnson

However, as the lesson progressed we notice some tendecies that lead to some erratic punts . It was all in how he was dropping the ball.  We went back to the basics and drove down the fundamentals of how he should be dropping the ball on his foot. We also looking closely on his left hand, he was letting go to early.

Its obvious that Jonathan has a NFL leg, and over the next few months he can work on his consistent drop, he will make a NFL roster.

We look forward to working with Jonathan again next month!

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